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In 2012, the state "put together a list of over 100,000 people that they thought were ineligible to vote. Came out there were less than 10."

Charlie Crist on Saturday, August 17th, 2013 in a speech to Louisiana Democrats

Charlie Crist says Florida "put together a list of over 100,000 people that they thought were ineligible to vote. Came out there were less than 10.”

Florida’s effort to search for noncitizens on the voter rolls launched a firestorm in the weeks leading up to the 2012 presidential election.

Gov. Rick Scott’s initiative was lampooned on The Daily Show; the U.S. Department of Justice cried foul; and two South Florida congressmen held a presser to tout errors on the list, including a Brooklyn-born World War II vet flagged as potentially not being a citizen.

But in the end, just how many noncitizen voters did Florida find among almost 12 million voters?

Former Gov. Charlie Crist gave his answer in a speech to Louisiana Democrats on Aug. 17, 2013. He started by bashing the state’s recent announcement that it intends to scrutinize the voter rolls for noncitizens yet again.

"Our governor just announced last week he is going to start a purge of voters in Florida," Crist said. "They tried it last year. The secretary of state put together a list of over 100,000 people that they thought were ineligible to vote. Came out there were less than 10. I mean, what a joke. It’s unconscionable what they will do to win these elections."

Crist, a former Republican turned independent turned Democrat, is considering a bid against Scott. If Crist runs in 2014, one way he will try to boost turnout among Democrats and minorities is by hammering Scott’s record on voting rights.

So was he correct to say that the effort to get rid of noncitizen voters only led to "less than 10" being removed?

2012 efforts to purge voter rolls

First, we’ll briefly recap the history of the search for noncitizen voters.

Shortly after Scott took office in 2011 he asked his top election official at the time to look into removing noncitizens from the voter rolls.

By 2012, the Division of Elections put together a list of about 180,000 potential noncitizens based on driver’s license data.

The state whittled the list down to about 2,600 names and sent them to county election supervisors in April 2012. Liberal groups criticized the list that they said disproportionately targeted Hispanics and other minorities. Supervisors found all sorts of errors and would later use words such as "sloppy" and "embarrassing" to describe the state initiative. One of the problems was that the driver’s license data doesn’t get updated when a legal resident later becomes a citizen.

By September 2012, the Division of Elections said it had confirmed 207 noncitizens on the voter rolls and that the names would be provided to county elections supervisors to contact the voters. Any that matched federal homeland security data would be removed.

Later that month the state produced a new list of 198 potentially ineligible voters. But by then, supervisors were fed up with the timing and process, and the effort appeared to fizzle out.

A year later, in August 2013, news broke that the state was about to launch another round of searching for noncitizens on the voter rolls.

So what was the total removed?

PolitiFact Florida asked the division of elections for the total number of noncitizens removed, including a breakdown by county, during 2012. The best figures we could obtain from the state only included those removed as of Aug. 1, 2012.

We counted 85 who were listed as being removed because they were "not a U.S. citizen." (A few additional voters on that list were removed for other reasons, such as being dead or moving out of state. One category for removal was "request by voter," though it doesn’t explain why the voters requested it.)

As a back-stop, we next checked in directly with some of the county supervisors of elections to see how many noncitizen voters they removed from the rolls. Their answers made it clear it was more than 10.

  • Miami-Dade: 16 voters removed.

  • Collier: 36 removed.

  • Broward: Seven voters removed.

  • Orange: Seven voters removed.

  • Lee: Six voters removed.

  • Hillsborough: Two voters removed.

  • Pasco: Two voters removed.

  • Pinellas: Six voters removed.

We asked Crist to explain how he arrived at his figure of "less than 10."

"Just from news accounts, may have been around 40 or so actually," he responded in an email. "And somewhat more purged."

He sent us a copy of an August 2013 New York Times article about the state’s renewed effort that stated: "Ultimately, the list of possible noncitizen voters shrank to 198. Of those, fewer than 40 had voted illegally."

Our ruling

Crist said that in 2012, "the secretary of state put together a list of over 100,000 people that they thought were ineligible to vote. Came out there were less than 10."

If Crist’s point was that only a tiny fraction of noncitizens were found on the voter rolls, that’s certainly true. But he’s wrong that the number was less than 10.

The best data we could nail down from the state was that there were about 85 noncitizens removed as of August 1, 2012.

We rate his claim Mostly False.

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Published: Thursday, September 12th, 2013 at 4:24 p.m.

Subjects: Elections

Sources:

Louisiana Democratic Party, Former Gov. Charlie Crist’s speech at the J.J. dinner, Aug. 17, 2013

Miami Herald/Tampa Bay Times, "Governor to launch new purge of Florida voter rolls," Aug. 4, 2013

Miami Herald letter to editor from Secretary of State Ken Detzner, "Integrity of our voter rolls must be insured," June 25, 2012

Miami Herald Naked Politics blog, "Jon Stewart mocks Rick Scott’s noncitizen voter purge, Scott all smiles," June 13, 2012

Tampa Bay Times The Buzz blog, "Scott’s voter purge part 2 set for early October," Sept. 11, 2013

New York Times, "Florida’s approach to purging voter rolls of noncitizens prompts federal lawsuit," Accessed in Nexis, June 13, 2012

New York Times, "Ruling revives Florida review of voting rolls," Aug. 7, 2013

Twitter, Gov. Charlie Crist tweet, Aug. 8, 2013

PolitiFact, "MoveOn says Gov. Rick Scott ‘tried to kick 180,000 people off the voter rolls," July 10, 2012

PolitiFact, "U.S. Rep. Hastings says Florida’s noncitizen voter purge is a ‘backdoor poll tax,"June 7, 2012

PolitiFact, "Bill Nelson compares Rick Scott’s voter purge with 2000 attempt," June 5, 2012

Miami Herald letter to the editor from Secretary of State Ken Detzner, "Integrity of our voter rolls must be ensured," June 25, 2012  

Miami Herald, "Legal voters may — or may not — have been purged from rolls in noncitizen hunt; Voting purge program," June 13, 2012

PolitiFact, "U.S. Rep. Hastings says Florida’s noncitizen voter purge is a ‘backdoor poll tax,’"June 7, 2012

Florida Division of Elections, Number of registered voters removed from the rolls from the initial 2600 voters identified as potentially ineligible non U.S. citizens, As of Aug. 1, 2012

Interview, Ron Labasky, attorney for Florida state association of supervisors of elections, Sept. 9, 2013

Interview, Mary Cooney, spokeswoman for the Broward Supervisor of Elections, Sept. 9, 2013

Interview, Carolina Lopez, Miami Dade County Deputy Supervisor of Elections, Sept. 6, 2013

Interview, Linda Tanko Senior Deputy Supervisor/Voter Services Orange County, Sept. 6, 2013

Interview, Dave Carpenter Qualifying Officer Collier County, Sept. 6, 2013

Interview, Brian Corley, Pasco Supervisor of Elections, Sept. 9, 2013

Interview, Nancy Whitlock, Pinellas County elections administrator, Sept. 10, 2013

Interview, Gerri Kramer, spokeswoman Hillsborough County Supervisor of Elections, Sept. 10, 2013

Interview, Cheryl Johnson, voter registration director, Lee County, Sept. 11, 2013

Interview, Mark Ard, Senior Management Analyst II Florida Department of State, Aug. 14, 2013

Interview, Brittany Lesser, spokeswoman for the Florida Department of State, Sept. 4, 2013

Interview, Advancement Project director of voter protection programs, Kathy Culliton-Gonzalez:

Written by: Amy Sherman
Researched by: Amy Sherman
Edited by: Angie Drobnic Holan

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