Says abortion doctors are "flying into this state, performing abortions and flying out."
Matthew Hill on Thursday, March 29th, 2012 in a debate on the state House floor.
Matthew Hill says abortion doctors flying in, out of Tennessee to perform procedures
During House floor debate on this year’s most prominent abortion bill in the General Assembly, Rep. Matthew Hill declared that one reason enactment is needed is that physicians are currently flying into the state and then flying out, leaving their patients with little recourse should complications arise.
The bill (HB3808) requires abortion providers to have hospital admission privileges in the county where the procedure is performed or an adjacent county. Critics contended the bill, titled "The Life Defense Act of 2012," is unnecessary and intended as an impediment to providing abortions in Tennessee.
Hill, R-Jonesborough, is vice chairman of the House Health and Human Resources Committee, chairman of the House Health Subcommittee and lead sponsor of the bill.
In explaining why passage is needed, he told colleagues in the March 29, 2012, floor debate that, first of all, abortion doctors were traveling across the state to perform abortions and then going back home. That’s not the claim we’re checking; his second reason is what brought forth skepticism from his colleagues.
"Number two," Hill said, "we have abortion physicians that are flying into this state and that they are performing abortions." He continued: "They’re flying into this state, performing abortions and flying out. And what happens is when a woman has complications, the doctor who performed that abortion is long gone. So if anything -- and I know it’s true – this legislation will expand critical, possibly life-saving access to care to the woman who has complications from the abortion. That’s why I’m bringing the legislation and that, in all practicality, is what it’ll do."
Hill’s assertion about doctors flying in from out of the state was challenged by House Democratic Caucus Chairman Mike Turner of Nashville. Turner first asked, "How many doctors are flying in and performing abortions?"
Replied Hill: "I don’t have the exact number. You can probably call Planned Parenthood if you like."
Turner pressed the point, asking if "you know any place this is happening."
Hill: "I do know of one physician that is driving from Northeast Tennessee across the state of Tennessee to do this."
Turner: "But you said out-of-state … You don’t know that for sure?"
Hill: "I do not have direct knowledge of that, no, sir."
That left hanging the question of whether there actually are abortion doctors flying into the state, performing the procedures, then flying away. We decided to seek the answer.
Bill Christian, spokesman for the state Department of Health, said that a physician performing an abortion in Tennessee must be licensed to practice medicine within the state under current law. But that does not mean the physician has to be a Tennessee resident. It would be legal, he said, for a non-resident doctor to fly into Tennessee and perform an abortion – so long as he or she was licensed within the state.
Christian said the department has no information on whether any doctors are doing so and no indication of any doctor being prosecuted for performing an abortion without a license in the state. But the statistics collected by the department on abortions would not necessarily cover that information, he said.
Hill, asked for his source for the assertion, said he had been told of fly-in doctors by leaders of Tennessee Right to Life, an organization of anti-abortion activists.
Brian Harris, president of Tennessee Right to Life, said he believes there are cases of fly-in abortion providers, but declined to provide any specifics because of "circumstances now evolving on another front."
"All around the country, I don’t think it’s an unusual practice," said Harris, adding that the practice may increase because the number of abortion providers is declining nationwide.
Harris said there is at least one case of the reverse situation – a Tennessee doctor flying out of the state to perform abortions. He cited Dr. Gary Boyle of Blountville, who was arrested in October, 2010, on charges of pointing a gun at anti-abortion protesters outside a clinic in Charleston, S.C. Boyle has pleaded not guilty to the charges and the trial is still pending.
And former state Rep. Chris Clem, an attorney in Chattanooga, says there was a lawsuit filed years ago against two Alabama doctors alleging malpractice in an abortion performed at a now-closed Chattanooga clinic. But Clem could not provide the doctors’ names or any details of the case, which he recalls was settled out of court more than a decade ago.
On the other hand, leaders with Planned Parenthood in Tennessee say Hill’s claim is blatantly wrong.
"That has never happened," said Jeff Teague, CEO and president of Planned Parenthood of Middle and East Tennessee. "All the doctors we use (in Planned Parenthood clinics) are from Tennessee and, from conversations with others (who provide abortion services in the state), they have Tennessee physicians, too."
Planned Parenthood has two regional offices in Tennessee. Barry Chase of the Greater Memphis office, concurs with Teague: "Rep. Hill needs to find out what the truth is and stick with it in the future."
Teague said that Hill’s reference to calling Planned Parenthood during the debate is an example of his organization being "used as a punching bag all of the time." Planned Parenthood has been at pains to point out, for instance, that abortions only account for 3 percent of the services it provides. Said Teague: "They (anti-abortion activists) like to throw out false accusations on a whole lot of levels . . . They just like to make us out as the bad guys, the evil forces, all of the time."
Hill at first boldly claimed that doctors who perform abortions were flying in and then out of the state, but when challenged by a Democratic colleague acknowledged he had no specific knowledge that it had occurred. The director of Tennessee’s leading anti-abortion would not provide any evidence that the practice has occurred either. Planned Parenthood claims this does not happen. With no evidence to support this claim, we rule it False.
Published: Thursday, April 12th, 2012 at 6:30 a.m.
House floor debate on HB3808 (Hill’s remarks begin at about 2:08 into the tape).
Abortion statistics for Tennessee, 2010, from state Department of Health,
Interview with state Rep. Matthew Hill, April 2, 2012
Interview with Brian Harris, president Tennessee Right to Life, April 4, 2012.
Interview with Barry Chase, Planned Parenthood of Greater Memphis, April 2, 2012.
Interview with Jeff Teagure, Planned Parenthood of Middle and East Tennessee, April 9, 2012.
Interview with Chris Clem, Chattanooga attorney, April 10, 2012.
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