President Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid support Rick Perry’s "decision to give in-state tuition to illegal immigrants."
Mitt Romney on Thursday, September 29th, 2011 in a campaign video.
Mitt Romney says Obama, Pelosi and Reid agree with Rick Perry on in-state tuition
To ominous background music, a video posted online by Mitt Romney’s campaign opens with a narrator asking, "Who supports Gov. (Rick) Perry’s decision to give in-state tuition to illegal immigrants?"
Next, photographs of President Barack Obama, U.S. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of California and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada appear onscreen, one after the other. That’s followed by a November 2003 video clip of Vicente Fox, Mexico’s president at the time, thanking Perry for Texas’ 2001 law enabling some illegal immigrants to pay in-state tuition at the state’s public colleges and universities. Fox’s thanks, which were videotaped by C-SPAN, were offered during a visit to Austin.
That moment aside, we wondered if Romney, the former Massachusetts governor vying with Perry and others for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination, was correct in saying that the three Democratic leaders support Perry’s action.
This fall, Romney and other candidates have hammered Perry for the Texas law, which Perry has defended as giving solid students opportunities not to be drags on society. Also, Perry has accurately noted that the proposal cleared the Texas House and Senate with minimal opposition.
Under the Texas law, undocumented immigrants with a Texas high school diploma or GED who have lived in Texas for at least three years can qualify for in-state tuition if they sign an affidavit saying they intend to apply for permanent residency as soon as they can.
We asked Romney’s campaign staff for backup on the Sept. 29, 2011, video’s claims. Spokesman Ryan Williams pointed us to news stories and government web pages showing Obama, Pelosi and Reid backing versions of the proposed federal DREAM Act, which would provide a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants who were brought to the United States as children, if they attend college or serve in the military.
We’ll explore the DREAM Act aspect in a moment.
First, we wondered whether any of the Democratic leaders have spoken explicitly about the Texas law.
Romney’s material offered nothing specific about that, though it noted that as a member of the Illinois Senate, Obama co-sponsored legislation to allow undocumented immigrant students to pay in-state tuition at public colleges and universities. That measure became law in 2003.
Like the Texas law, the Illinois act requires benefiting students to have a high school diploma or GED from an institution in the state and to sign affidavits swearing to apply for permanent legal residency. Texas requires students to have lived in the state for three years prior to receiving a diploma/GED while Illinois requires that the students attended school in-state for the three years before they received a diploma/GED.
According to legislative records, Obama was one of 26 senators listed as co-sponsors of the proposal. He does not appear to have been a key advocate; none of 40 news items that we found published on the measure in 2002-03 mentions him.
In interviews and by email, aides for Pelosi, Reid and Obama each said their boss had not spoken about the Texas law.
We found no news accounts showing otherwise. More broadly, news reports yielded no flat endorsements by the Democratic leaders of state laws allowing in-state tuition for illegal immigrants, yet also no indications that any of the three object.
During a 2007 visit to Arizona, Pelosi made what the Arizona Republic described as a "reference to the effect of" a state law barring illegal immigrants from getting in-state tuition rates.
The paper’s Feb. 20, 2007, news story says Pelosi described meeting a prospective student who could not prove she was a legal U.S. resident and then said: "Our country does not benefit by our depriving young people of an education."
Her comment, though, falls short of calling for in-state tuition for illegal immigrants.
Asked to clarify Obama’s position on in-state tuition laws, White House spokesman Adam Abrams told us that he has not weighed in on the issue as president.
However, Obama recently voiced a sentiment similar to Pelosi’s: Speaking in support of the DREAM Act during a May 10, 2011, address in El Paso, Obama said that "we should stop punishing innocent young people for the actions of their parents. We should stop denying them the chance to earn an education."
Reid has used similar words. Romney’s campaign cites a 2007 example in which MSNBC quotes Reid arguing for the DREAM Act: "Children should not be penalized for the actions of their parents."
But does the Democrats’ support for the DREAM Act — confirmed by their spokesmen — back up Romney’s claim?
Most DREAM Act versions, including those pending before the U.S. House and Senate, would repeal a 1996 federal provision that some people interpret as a ban on states allowing illegal immigrants to qualify for in-state college tuition rates unless everyone legally in the U.S. can get the same benefit. The provision says: "An alien who is not lawfully present in the United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a state (or a political subdivision) for any post-secondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit (in no less an amount, duration and scope) without regard to whether the citizen or national is such a resident."
Obama once co-sponsored a measure like the Texas tuition law, giving Romney’s claim a thread of truth. However, none of the Democrats has aired support for Perry’s decision to sign his state’s proposal into law, which is the essence of the claim. We rate Romney’s statement Mostly False.
Published: Thursday, November 10th, 2011 at 5:08 p.m.
Email interviews, Ryan Williams, spokesman for Mitt Romney campaign, Oct. 17-Nov. 2, 2011
Mittromney.com press release, "Romney for President releases new Web video, ‘Thank you Governor Perry,’" Sept. 30, 2011
Austin American-Statesman news story, "Mexico’s emissary supports two bills," May 16, 2001
C-SPAN video, "Mexican President Remarks, Nov. 6 2003"
Austin American-Statesman news story, "Fox’s message to Texas," Nov. 7, 2003
Fox News/Google Republican debate for presidential hopefuls (transcript), Orlando, Fla., Sept. 22, 2011
Texas House of Representatives, journal entry, April 23, 2001
Texas Senate, journal entry, May 21, 2001
Texas House of Representatives, journal entry, May 24, 2001
Text of Texas House Bill 1403, 77th Legislature, enrolled June 16, 2001
Illinois General Assembly, Status of HB 0060, enrolled May 20, 2003
Phone and email interviews, Carlos Sanchez, deputy press secretary for U.S. Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-California, Oct. 17 and Nov. 3, 2011
Email and phone interviews, Adam Jentleson, communications director for U.S. Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nevada, Nov. 1 and Nov. 9, 2011
Email interviews, Adam W. Abrams, White House Western regional communications director, Oct. 19-Nov. 3, 2011
Arizona Republic news story, "Pelosi addresses college costs," Feb. 20, 2007
Video, "President Obama Immigration Reform Speech El Paso Texas (May 10 20110 [3/3]"
MSNBC news story, "Immigration impasse long in the making," July 29, 2010
Email interviews, Chris Chmielenski, director of content and activism for NumbersUSA, Oct. 27-Nov. 1, 2011
Email interview, Brenda Bautsch, education policy specialist with the National Conference of State Legislatures, Nov. 2, 2011
Email and phone interviews, Michael Olivas, University of Houston law school, Nov. 3-7, 2011
Email interview, Max Gleishman, press secretary for U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Illinois, Nov. 3-7, 2011
Congressional Research Service, Report for Congress: "Unauthorized Alien Students: Issues and ‘DREAM Act’ Legislation," Dec. 14, 2010
Los Angeles Times news story, "Supreme Court allows California to grant in-state tuition to illegal immigrants," June 6, 2011
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