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"When (John) Brennan ... was asked directly … ‘Is there any geographic limitation to your drone strike program?’ Brennan responded and said, ‘no, there is no limitation.’"

Rand Paul on Wednesday, March 6th, 2013 in a Senate filibuster

Rand Paul says CIA Director John Brennan claimed no geographic limit on drone strikes

When Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., staged his historic filibuster over 13 hours on March 6, 2013, he said he just wanted answers.

He wanted President Barack Obama’s administration to definitively say whether the use of armed drones could ever be justified on American soil. During his epic stand on the Senate floor, which only ended with the inevitable call of nature, Paul cited several statements made by administration officials that concerned him -- including one by CIA Director nominee John Brennan.

"When Brennan, whose nomination I am opposing today, was asked directly, 'Is there any limit to your killing? Is there any geographic limitation to your drone strike program?' Brennan responded and said, 'no, there is no limitation,'" Paul said during the first hour of filibustering.

Paul's issue was about the possibility of drone strikes in the United States. After his filibuster, Attorney General Eric Holder addressed Paul's concerns in a letter. Holder wrote that the president does not have the authority "to use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on American soil."

In looking over Paul's statements during the filibuster, we wondered: Did Paul accurately characterize Brennan’s answer about geographic limitations to drone use in the global terror fight? Did Brennan say there was "no geographic limitation?"

We reached out to Paul’s office but did not hear back. Still, we found three instances of Brennan addressing that issue.

In a speech in April 2012 at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, Brennan -- acknowledging the administration’s drone program for the first time publicly -- said drone strikes could be necessary outside of the battlefield. At the time he was Obama’s point person on counterterrorism strategy.

"There is nothing in international law that bans the use of remotely piloted aircraft for this purpose or that prohibits us from using lethal force against our enemies outside of an active battlefield, at least when the country involved consents or is unable or unwilling to take action against the threat," he said.

In February 2013, ahead of hearings before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence to confirm him as CIA director, Brennan reiterated that belief in response to written questions.

Question: "Would you support legislation to authorize the use of force outside of ‘hot’ battlefields and codify the standards for the conduct of targeted strikes, including through the use of remotely piloted aircraft? Why or why not?"

Brennan replied: "On your question about whether I would support legislation to authorize the use of force outside of ‘hot’ battlefields, I believe we currently have the authority to take action in such circumstances against al-Qaida and associated forces. As Jeh Johnson, the former General Counsel of the Department of Defense, indicated in a lecture at Yale Law School in February of last year, the 2001 Authorization for the Use of Military Force does not contain a geographical limitation. Consequently I do not believe additional legislation along these lines is necessary."

And in more written questions after his confirmation hearing, Brennan was again asked about "geographical limits" on the administration’s drone strikes.

He noted, in part, "the government has a responsibility to protect its citizens from these attacks, and, thus, as the attorney general has noted, ‘neither Congress nor our federal courts has limited the geographic scope of our ability to use force to the current conflict in Afghanistan.’"
   
But he went on to say: "This does not mean, however, that we use military force whenever or wherever we want. International legal principles, such as respect for another nation’s sovereignty, constrain our ability to act unilaterally. Using force in another country is consistent with these international legal principles if conducted, for example, with the consent of the relevant nation – or if or when other governments are unwilling or unable to deal effectively with a threat to the United States."

We ran this issue by Paul Pillar, a former CIA official who now teaches at Georgetown University. He responded: "Sen. Paul's comment is a generally correct characterization of Brennan's answer regarding the absence of any geographic limitation on the administration's authority to conduct strikes. Brennan's further remark about other considerations coming into play is a way of saying that the administration does not wantonly conduct strikes around the world, but those considerations do not constitute a ‘geographic limitation.’"

Our ruling

Paul said during the filibuster, "When Brennan, whose nomination I am opposing today, was asked directly, … ‘Is there any geographic limitation to your drone strike program?’ Brennan responded and said, ‘no, there is no limitation.’"

We found three instances when Brennan cited legal opinion asserting no geographic limit on where the United States can use drones against terrorists. He did add that the absence of a geographic limit does not mean drones can be used "whenever or wherever" -- that international legal principles still apply. But we agree with Pillar that that addendum doesn’t amount to a geographic limitation.

Paul’s characterization of Brennan’s comments is accurate. We rate it True.

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Published: Tuesday, March 12th, 2013 at 1:57 p.m.

Subjects: Civil Rights, Terrorism

Sources:

Sen. Rand Paul, transcript of filibuster speech, March 6, 2013

PolitiFact, "Sen. Rand Paul says Obama 'is advocating a drone strike program in America,'" March 7, 2013

Attorney General's Office, Letter from Eric Holder to Sen. Rand Paul, March 7, 2013

Wilson Center, "Transcript of Remarks by John O. Brennan, Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism, 'The Ethics and Efficacy of the President’s Counterterrorism Strategy,'" April 30, 2012

U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, "Additional Prehearing Questions for Mr. John O. Brennan upon his nomination to be the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency," Feb. 7, 2013

U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Questions for the Record: Mr. John Brennan, Feb. 7, 2013

U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, "OPEN HEARING ON THE NOMINATION OF JOHN O. BRENNAN TO BE DIRECTOR OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY," Feb. 7, 2013

Email interview with Paul Pillar, March 12, 2013

Written by: Molly Moorhead
Researched by: Becky Bowers, Molly Moorhead
Edited by: Angie Drobnic Holan

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