The Truth-O-Meter Says:

The Wisconsin unemployment rate was higher than the U.S. rate during only three months when Mary Burke was state commerce secretary.

Joe Zepecki on Monday, June 23rd, 2014 in an interview

Wisconsin unemployment rarely above U.S. when Mary Burke was commerce chief, her spokesman says

In February 2014, ramping up efforts to tie Democratic gubernatorial front-runner Mary Burke to former Gov. Jim Doyle, the Wisconsin Republican Party declared:

"The only time over the last 25 years when the state’s unemployment rate exceeded the U.S. average was when Burke was commerce secretary." We rated the claim Mostly True.

Dating back to 1988, there were 15 months when Wisconsin’s unemployment rate was higher, all during Burke’s time running Commerce under Doyle. The GOP’s claim only indirectly blamed Burke and we noted that other factors, such as trends in the U.S. economy, affect state unemployment rates.

In an interview on June 23, 2014, however, Burke campaign spokesman Joe Zepecki said the state unemployment rate exceeded the national rate for only three months while Burke ran Commerce.

So, let’s reboot.

Reviewing the rates

During Zepecki’s interview on "The Devil’s Advocates," a talk show on WXXM-FM (92.1) in Madison, the two co-hosts and Zepecki talked about Burke and Gov. Scott Walker in terms of job creation and unemployment.

Here’s a portion of the exchange:

Co-host Mike Crute: "Well, back when Mary Burke was the commerce secretary, I believe 2006-2007, Joe, the unemployment rate was 4.7 percent. Of course, they (Republicans) want to say, 'higher than the national average,' for the short time Mary was in that position. But at 4.7 percent, I mean, that is pretty much full employment when she was commerce secretary."

(Burke actually was commerce secretary from February 2005 to November 2007.)

Zepecki: "It is, and it was three months, three individual months within her two and a half years where I believe the unemployment rate here was about a tenth of a percentage point higher. Again, this is what they’re doing, just trying to play fast and loose and lay out ways to obscure (Walker’s) failures on jobs."

When we contacted Zepecki, he began his email response by saying: "I got this one wrong."

Zepecki said he made his claim based on his recollection of a chart produced by the state GOP that compared Wisconsin and U.S. unemployment rates during Burke’s time at Commerce. He said the chart seemed to show three periods of time when Wisconsin’s rate exceeded the U.S. rate.

But he didn’t disagree, as we found in fact-checking the GOP’s claim, that U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics figures show Wisconsin’s rate was higher for 15 months of Burke’s 33-month tenure.

It’s worth noting that, even when Wisconsin’s rate exceeded the national rate, it was by less than one-half of 1 percentage point.

Our rating

Zepecki said the Wisconsin unemployment rate was higher than the U.S. rate during only three months when Mary Burke was state commerce secretary.

Wisconsin’s rate was never more than fourth-tenths of a percentage point higher than the U.S. rate, but it did exceed the U.S. rate for nearly half of of Burke’s 33 months running Commerce.

We rate the statement False.

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Published: Sunday, July 6th, 2014 at 5:00 a.m.

Subjects: Candidate Biography, Economy, Jobs, States


"The Devil’s Advocates," interview with Joe Zepecki (quote at 7:10), June 23, 2014

Interview and email interview, Mary Burke campaign communications director Joe Zepecki, June 26, 2014

PolitiFact Wisconsin, "Since 1988, Wisconsin unemployment rate greater than U.S. rate only when Mary Burke held state commerce post, GOP says," Feb. 14, 2014

Written by: Tom Kertscher
Researched by: Tom Kertscher
Edited by: Greg Borowski

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