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Kasim Reed on Monday, October 17th, 2011 in statements to the public

Reed sends mixed messages, but does not flip, on Occupy Atlanta

All the twists and turns in the Occupy Atlanta protest saga made the PolitiFact Georgia team wonder whether they amounted to a flip-flop by Mayor Kasim Reed.

Sympathizers of the Occupy Wall Street protests took over Woodruff Park in downtown Atlanta on a Friday night more than two weeks ago. The following Monday, police officers positioned themselves nearby, and protesters braced for clashes or mass arrests like the ones that have taken place in New York City.

The clashes never happened. Two days later, demonstrators cheered an executive order from Reed that let them stay in the park until Oct. 17 -- last Monday.

The order’s expiration loomed. Once again activists prepared for a showdown. With hours to spare, Reed issued another order letting them stay for three more weeks.

It sounded a little flip-floppy to us. We rummaged the office for our Flip-O-Meter to see whether Reed shifted his stance by letting Occupy Atlanta protesters stay in the park.

We studied Reed’s public statements, news releases and executive orders, as well as actions and statements by other city officials who report to him.

As far as we can tell, the first time Reed spoke publicly about the Occupy Wall Street movement was Oct. 10 in Chicago, as he appeared on a panel that included New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel.

It was three days after the Atlanta protests began. Reed was sympathetic.

"I think that people wanted focusing attention and passion on jobs," he said, according to a clip that aired on WXIA-TV. "I’m really OK with it because I think the country needs more passion and we need a big fight."

As Reed was in Chicago, Atlanta City Councilman Michael Julian Bond was back home helping set up a meeting between demonstrators and city officials, including Police Chief George Turner.

Activist Tim Franzen attended the meeting. He told PolitiFact Georgia that Turner said that police would arrest demonstrators who break the law, but the chief did not give a specific time frame.

Another activist at the meeting told us Turner’s message was less specific.

"Word for word, it was that they [police] ‘would enforce the law,’ " said activist James Turner, who is not related to the police chief. "They made it seem urgent."

Bond, who attended a portion of the meeting, said he did not hear the police chief tell protesters they would be arrested, but he got the impression they were going to jail that night.

That night, police mobilized on the streets surrounding Woodruff Park. Some rode on horseback. Others brought police dogs. Regardless of the chief’s actual words, it makes sense that protesters thought they would be behind bars before sunrise.

The chief’s office referred PolitiFact Georgia’s questions to Reed’s representatives. Reed told PolitiFact Georgia the police chief "never" told protesters they would be arrested.

The next day, Reed told the City Council’s Public Safety Committee that police staged near Woodruff Park to rehearse their response in case protests turned violent.

Attorneys were reviewing the city’s options, Reed said.

"Obviously we have some feeling about the right of people to peaceably protest and their legitimate concerns. But you all have passed a set of ordinances that I’m responsible for enforcing," Reed told the committee. "So to apply them to one group and not to apply them to another group is creating real problems with us."

"[T]he posture of the city of Atlanta is we will not be moving forward with arrests at this time," he said.

Reed issued an executive order the next day, a Wednesday. It said "there is a compelling public safety need" to suspend enforcement of city rules that shut down Woodruff Park between 11 p.m. and 6 a.m. Enforcing them would take too many police resources away from other neighborhoods.

Police could make arrests to "maintain public peace and good order for a reason other than enforcing park closing hours," it said.

The order would expire Oct. 17, the date of the next City Council meeting. City code requires all executive orders to expire after the next council meeting, unless the council ratifies them.

The order did not say police would arrest protesters who remained in the park after the order’s expiration.

Still, protesters perceived this date to be an eviction deadline. Media outlets described it as one, but this interpretation is not clear-cut.

That Friday, three days before the order expired, the mayor’s office said the date was not a firm deadline, according to a story by Channel 2 Action News, a reporting partner of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

When Oct. 17 rolled around, Reed issued a second, nearly identical order. It will expire after the Nov. 7 council meeting. Reed has not indicated what he will do at that time.

Our ruling:

Reed maintained through his public statements, news releases and executive orders that he will respect peaceful public protest and protect the city if demonstrations turn violent.

The police show of force near the park Oct. 10 conveyed a more intimidating message than Reed’s words did, but it fell short of contradicting him. Both he and his surrogates gave themselves leeway to make arrests.

The fact that Reed extended the time protesters could remain in the park is not enough evidence to say he flipped his position, either. City code required that the first order expire Oct. 17. The order does not say protesters would be removed after that date. Reed’s office said three days before then that it was not a firm deadline for protesters to leave the park.

The city’s actions might have sent mixed signals, but Reed’s statements were carefully calibrated and the evidence indicates he did not change his stance.

We rule No Flip.

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Published: Monday, October 24th, 2011 at 6:00 a.m.

Subjects: Occupy Wall Street, Public Safety

Sources:

City of Atlanta, Executive Order Number 2001-2, Oct 12, 2011

City of Atlanta, Executive Order Number 2011-3, Oct. 17, 2011

City of Atlanta, "Statement from Mayor Kasim Reed on Occupy Atlanta," Oct. 12, 2011

City of Atlanta, "Statement from Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed on Occupy Atlanta in Robert W. Woodruff Park," Oct. 17, 2011

Atlanta City Code of Ordinances, Section 2-182, "Powers of mayor in addition to other powers in Charter and Related Laws," accessed Oct. 18, 2011

WXIA-TV, "Mayor Reed responds to Occupy Atlanta protesters," Oct. 12, 2011

Atlanta City Council, council meeting videos, Public Safety Meeting, Oct. 11, 2011

Creative Loafing, "City Hall, APD give Occupy Atlanta notice about camping in Woodruff Park, possible arrests -- which could happen tonight," Oct. 10, 2011

Channel 2 Action News, "Occupy protesters ignore mayor's threat, stay in park," Oct. 12, 2011

Channel 2 Action News, "Mayor working to find Occupy Atlanta solution," Oct. 14, 2011

WXIA-TV, "DOWNTOWN: Atlanta mayor extends deadline for park protesters," Oct. 18, 2011

WXIA-TV, "Mayor extends deadline for Occupy Atlanta protesters," Oct. 18, 2011

WABE-FM, Occupy Atlanta Demonstrators Respond to Mayor's Deadline to Leave, Oct. 13, 2011

ABC News, "Occupy Atlanta Group Vows to Stay in Downtown Park," Oct. 11, 2011

Telephone interview, Sonji Jacobs Dade, spokeswoman, city of Atlanta, Oct. 18, 2011

Telephone interviews, Michael Julian Bond, Atlanta city councilman, Oct. 18 and 19, 2011

Telephone interview, Tim Franzen, activist, Occupy Atlanta, Oct. 18, 2011

Interview, James Turner, activist, Occupy Atlanta, Oct. 19, 2011

Interview, Kasim Reed, mayor of Atlanta, Oct. 19, 2011

Written by: Willoughby Mariano
Researched by: Willoughby Mariano, Eric Stirgus
Edited by: Jim Denery, Charles Gay

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