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With days remaining before the four-way Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat, Eric Hovde released a radio ad that hits Tommy Thompson on federal health reform -- or in partisan parlance, "Obamacare."
The July 26, 2012 radio ad, similar to a TV ad Hovde released Aug. 6, 2012, complains that Thompson is "slinging mud," distorting Hovde’s record and "hiding some things."
It then addresses President Barack Obama's federal health care reform law, using sound bites from Thompson and Obama to back a three-part claim:
"Thompson says he favors Obama’s health care mandate."
"Obama thanked Thompson for supporting ‘Obamacare.’"
"Thompson says we can't repeal ‘Obamacare.’"
Candidates often use their opponents’ "own words" to make claims against them. So, how do the three parts of Hovde’s claim score out?
Hovde uses the present tense to claim Thompson favors a key provision of the reform law: a mandate requiring nearly all individuals to have health insurance.
But the Thompson comment used in the ad -- and cited by Hovde campaign spokesman Sean Lansing as evidence -- was made during a University of Texas speech Thompson gave in 2007.
Asked about states requiring residents to have health insurance, Thompson said: "I, for one, believe the mandate for health insurance is all right." That’s the sound bite Hovde uses in his ad.
But in 2007, Obama wasn’t even in office, so Thompson couldn’t have been referring to "Obamacare."
Moreover, Thompson is campaigning now against the mandate and calling for the repeal Obama’s reform law in total.
(A note: We did rate as False a claim by Thompson that he never supported an individual mandate. As we noted, Thompson made the 2007 comment in favor of the concept and a similar one in 2006. But those statements don’t reflect his current position.)
On the second part of Hovde’s claim -- that Obama thanked Thompson for supporting "Obamacare" -- Hovde implies that Thompson endorsed Obama’s reform law. But the picture isn’t that clear.
Lansing cited an address the president made to the nation in October 2009 as health care reform legislation was moving through Congress.
We touched on it in rating Half True an August 2011 claim by Club for Growth, a national anti-tax group, that Thompson supported "Obamacare." As we noted in that item, Thompson expressed both support and opposition to the health care reform legislation that eventually became law.
In his address, Obama said the U.S. Senate Finance Committee’s version of health care reform would soon be merged with reform bills produced by other congressional committees. He also said Thompson was among Republicans who "came out in support of reform." That’s part of the Obama sound bite Hovde uses in his ad.
But Obama didn’t thank Thompson for anything, as Hovde’s ad states, much less thank him for backing his particular reform plan. He cited Thompson’s general support for health care reform, a position Thompson has reiterated during the campaign.
In stating that Thompson "says we can't repeal 'Obamacare,'" Hovde again uses the present tense.
But for evidence, Lansing cited a TV interview Thompson did in November 2010, which we also touched on in rating the Club for Growth claim. The Thompson sound bite Hovde uses is: "When it's all said and done, you're not going to be able to repeal health care."
The full Thompson statement was: "When it's all said and done, you're not going to be able to repeal health care because President Obama is not going to sign it and they don't have enough votes to override a veto. So why push a cart up hill when you know it's not going to be able to get to the top?"
Like the individual mandate part of Hovde's claim, this piece is highly misleading because it relies on an outdated statement from Thompson.
Indeed, the 2010 statement was an assessment on the political realities of the time, not whether the reform law could ever be repealed. Thompson is campaigning by saying that if elected, he would be the "51st vote" in the Senate to do so.
In claiming Thomson supports "Obama’s health care mandate" and that Thompson "says we can't repeal "Obamacare," Hovde uses outdated statements that falsely portray Thompson’s current positions.
And Hovde falsely claims that Obama thanked Thompson for supporting "Obamacare," when the president was citing Thompson’s support of reform in general.
By our math, False + False + False = False.
Eric Hovde campaign, radio ad, July 26, 2012
Eric Hovde campaign, TV ad, Aug. 6, 2012
Club for Growth, "Tommy 'Nanny State' Thompson" video, July 9, 2012
PoltiFact Wisconsin, "Club for Growth says potential Republican U.S. Senate candidate Tommy Thompson supported 'Obamacare,'" Aug. 31, 2011
PolitiFact Wisconsin, "GOP Wisconsin Senate candidate Tommy Thompson says he never backed individual mandate," July 15, 2012
Email interview, Thompson campaign spokesman Brian Nemoir, Aug. 4, 2012
Email interview, Hovde campaign spokesman Sean Lansing, Aug. 4, 2012
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