The Truth-O-Meter Says:

"Sen. Obama's chair in New Hampshire is a lobbyist. He lobbies for the drug companies."

Hillary Clinton on Saturday, January 5th, 2008 in a debate in Manchester, N.H.

Lobbyists live in Obama's glass house

Hillary Clinton highlighted an accurate inconsistency in Barack Obama's rhetoric and reality during the Democratic debate in New Hampshire on Jan. 5, 2008, three days ahead of the state's primary.

"You know, when it comes to lobbyists ... Sen. Obama's chair in New Hampshire is a lobbyist," Clinton said. "He lobbies for the drug companies."

As Clinton talked, Obama shook his head no as if he disagreed. "He was shaking his head because her implication was that it violated our lobbyist pledge and his role quite clearly does not," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said afterward. The Democrat has pledged not to take money from federal lobbyists or from federal political action committees.

The man on the hot seat is Jim Demers, a veteran New Hampshire strategist and early Obama supporter who is one of the campaign's four state co-chairs.

In the May 20, 2007, announcement of his position, the Obama campaign kept its distance, labeling Demers a "former lobbyist" and saying he "will act in a VOLUNTARY role as part of the statewide team."

And for good reason. On the campaign trail, Obama frequently assails lobbyists' influence in Washington, rejecting their campaign contributions and vowing not to let them work in his White House. (We previously found his antilobbyist policy has a few loopholes that allow him to accept money from well-connected state lobbyists.)

Records at the New Hampshire secretary of state's office show Demers currently is a registered lobbyist. He is president of the Demers Group, a lobbying firm based in Concord, N.H. In fact, he filed forms Dec. 28, 2007, to lobby for 20 organizations — including drugmaker Pfizer and the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA).

Demers, a University of Miami alum, is an experienced political player in New Hampshire. He served three terms in the state House and in 2004 was named the most influential lobbyist by, according to biographies listed on various Web sites. Records show he is not currently a registered federal lobbyist.

Confronted by Clinton's statement, the Obama campaign once again drew a line between lobbyists who seek to influence the federal government and those like Demers who work at the state level.

"A ban on lobbying money and PACs is far from perfect," Robert Gibbs, Obama's communications director, said in a statement. "There is a difference between a college football player and professional football player."

By noting Obama's lobbyist ties, Clinton is trying to deflect the barrage of criticism she has received for taking the most money among all presidential candidates from lobbyists and the health care industry. (Claims we previously found Mostly True .)

Despite the Obama campaign's contention that there is a difference between lobbyists at the federal level and lobbyists at the state level, Clinton's charge was unspecific. It simply says Obama's chair in New Hampshire is a lobbyist. He is. We find Clinton's claim to be True.

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Published: Sunday, January 6th, 2008 at 12:00 a.m.

Subjects: Ethics


CQ Transcripts, ABC News New Hampshire Democratic debate, Jan. 5, 2008

Jim Demers,

The Demers Group

WASRG Symposium 2005, Demers' speaker biography

New Hampshire Secretary of State, 2008 legislative session lobbyist database

Center for Responsive Politics, Federal lobbyist database

Interview with Jen Psaki, Obama campaign spokeswoman, Jan. 7, 2008

Written by: John Frank
Researched by: Lissa August, John Frank
Edited by: Amy Hollyfield

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