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Holmes Norton

"There are more guns than there are people in the United States."

Eleanor Holmes Norton on Monday, September 16th, 2013 in a press conference

Eleanor Holmes Norton says "more guns than people" in U.S., in Navy Yard reaction

In the wake of Monday’s Navy Yard shooting, Eleanor Holmes Norton, D-D.C., addressed national and civic security. Holmes, the nonvoting delegate to Congress representing the District of Columbia, praised the quick police response, but she also noted that no one is entirely insulated from criminal acts.

"We understand that in an open and democratic and free society, you cannot make yourself impenetrable, especially when there are more guns than there are people in the United States today," she said in a press conference.

Are there really more guns than people? We wanted to dig into the data.

Let’s pin down the easy number: population. The U.S. Census Bureau puts the 2010 population at 308.7 million people. We can get even closer with their nifty population clock, which on the day we checked it estimated a population of nearly 317 million, based on migration, birth and death rates.

Now that we have a frame of reference for Norton’s comparison, let’s move to the question of the number of civilian guns in the country, a murkier subject. As we’ve noted, federally sponsored gun research is scarce.

Most of the available studies are estimates. Since most states don’t register guns or license owners, there’s no concrete thing to count, said Jon Vernick, co-director of the Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research.

This June, at President Barack Obama’s request, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released a report rounding up what we know about firearm ownership and usage. It offered a 2007 estimate of 294 million guns, but with a pretty hefty caveat:

"Basic information about gun possession, acquisition, and storage is lacking," the report read. "No single database captures the total number, locations, and types of firearms and firearm owners in the United States."

The National Rifle Association usually describes the number as "approaching 300 million," spokesman Andrew Arulanandam wrote in an email.

Daniel van Hoogstraten, Norton’s spokesman, pointed us to a Congressional Research Service study that goes with a slightly higher ballpark: 310 million as of 2009. He made the case that gun proliferation in the country has been increasing at a quick enough rate to exceed the population. While that’s an interesting theory, we found no evidence to back it up.

Since the CRS number is from 2009, the closest apples-to-apples comparison we can make is using the U.S. Census population from 2010. So that's about 310 million guns to 308.7 million people. Again, we can't get a firm grip on how much the guns number has changed since then, but the population has gone up by almost nine million, according to the Census estimate.

Our ruling

Norton claimed there are "more guns than there are people in the United States." There’s no way to know for sure how many guns there are, given the available data. The highest credible guns number we saw was 310 million, which bests the 2010 population by over a million. But it falls short of the 2013 population estimate. We don't have any reliable gun surveys to approximate 2013 numbers. There's a chance Norton is right, but the available evidence isn't definitive. We rate Norton’s claim Half True.

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Published: Thursday, September 19th, 2013 at 1:53 p.m.

Subjects: Guns


The Atlantic, "Gun Violence in America: The 13 Key Questions (With 13 Concise Answers)," Feb. 4, 2013

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, "Annual Firearms Manufacturing and Export Report," July 11, 2013

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, "Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence," June 5, 2013

Congressional Research Service, "Gun Control Legislation," Nov. 14, 2012

Email interview with Andrew Arulanandam, National Rifle Association spokesman, Sept. 18, 2013

Email interview with Daniel van Hoogstraten, spokesman for Eleanor Holmes Norton, Sept. 18, 2013

Email interview with Jon Vernick, co-director of Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, Sept. 18, 2013

Injury Prevention, "The US Gun Stock: Results From the 2004 National Firearms Survey," Oct. 4, 2006

NBC News, "‘The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell’ for Monday, September 16th, 2013," Sept. 18, 2013

Phone interview with Marc Willis, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives spokesman, Sept. 17, 2013

PolitiFact, "Special Report: Examining the State of Gun Research," April 26, 2013

U.S. Census Bureau, "U.S. and World Population Clock," accessed Sept. 17, 2013

Written by: Julie Kliegman
Researched by: Julie Kliegman
Edited by: Angie Drobnic Holan

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