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"(GM and Chrysler) repaid their loans."

Barack Obama on Thursday, March 15th, 2012 in in campaign video “The Road We’ve Traveled”

President Barack Obama campaign video says auto companies 'repaid their loans'

A new Barack Obama campaign video narrated by Tom Hanks portrays the president’s bailout of General Motors and Chrysler as courageous and successful — with loans repaid by car companies.

"Because of the tough choices the president made, the stage was set for a resurgent U.S. auto industry," Hanks says in the 17-minute highlights reel of Obama’s presidency, titled The Road We’ve Traveled.

"With business booming, (GM and Chrysler) repaid their loans," he later concludes.

It’s a claim we’ve heard before from the CEOs of GM and Chrysler in 2010 and 2011. At the time, we rated their claims Half True.

But it’s been months since we’ve looked at this question, so we thought we’d ask again.

We’re not checking the overall merit of the government’s efforts to support the car companies, which relies on opinion. Instead, we’re checking some of the facts marshaled by filmmakers. In another item, we checked whether auto bailout money had run out by the time Obama took office. We rated that Mostly True. And here we’ll check whether GM and Chrysler "repaid their loans" from U.S. taxpayers.


The bailouts

We reached out to the car companies, consulted a detailed accounting of Bush and Obama administration rescues kept by the Pulitzer-winning ProPublica, consulted the U.S. Treasury and reviewed other reports and fact-checks on this topic.

The story begins in late 2008, when the U.S. economy was crashing. By early December, GM and Chrysler told the government they couldn’t get the credit they needed to survive, threatening more than 1 million jobs, according to a report from the Congressional Oversight Panel.

President George W. Bush’s administration provided the auto companies with short-term funding from the Troubled Asset Relief Program — remember TARP? — support that was continued under Obama with additional loans that financed the companies’ bankruptcy reorganizations.

The 2009 report predicted, "Although taxpayers may recover some portion of their investment in Chrysler and GM, it is unlikely they will recover the entire amount." In September 2011, the Treasury reported that it expected the auto bailouts to "cost the taxpayer just under $24 billion."

How does this square with the statement that the companies have "repaid their loans"?

Some government money was offered as loans — but much more was used to purchase stock. Meanwhile, during restructuring, GM and Chrysler were divided into "old" and "new" companies. And the car companies' consumer finance arms also received aid in the effort to avoid shutdowns.

Our tally of ProPublica’s work on General MotorsGMACChrysler and Chrysler Financial Services shows that of $80 billion spent by taxpayers on the entire bailout, we’re still waiting on nearly $40 billion, a number confirmed by the Treasury Department. At some point, selling taxpayers’ stock in GM and GMAC may earn back a chunk of the rest. But all of it? The story’s not over yet.

What part of that was loans? Let's look at each automaker.

Chrysler

The government’s bailout of "Chrysler" actually involved government infusions totaling more than $12 billion to three companies. One was the automaker prior to its bankruptcy reorganization, the old Chrysler. One was the reorganized company, Chrysler Group. And the third was the company that provided consumer auto loans, Chrysler Financial Services.

Just two of the three have satisfied their government obligations. But the film's "repaid" rhetoric reflects solely the Chrysler Group — the new Chrysler. What’s the larger story?

• Since Chrysler Group LLC was formed in June 2009, it has repaid its U.S. loans of $5.1 billion "in full, with interest, six years early," according to a fact-sheet from Katie Merx, financial communications manager for the reorganized company.  (The Treasury also says so.) Another chunk of money bought the government a small ownership stake in the new company, but that’s already been bought by Fiat. So, the Chrysler Group, the entity that arose out of the bankruptcy, has repaid its loans and has shed government ownership.

• Chrysler Financial Services, now TD Auto Finance, has paid off its loan of $1.5 billion — and taxpayers made $22 million on the deal, according to the Treasury Department and ProPublica.

• But the amount taxpayers loaned to Chrysler before it filed for bankruptcy protection in 2009 — the entity now dubbed "Old Carco" — was chalked up as a loss by the federal government. That’s a $1.3 billion loan that will never be repaid. (The old company is still grinding through liquidation, but the government doesn’t expect to collect any more.)

So, new Chrysler has "repaid its loans," as has Chrysler Financial Services. But old Chrysler was lent $1.3 billion that won’t be repaid. Even so, taxpayers have fared better than most folks thought — a government official suggested in 2009 that $7 billion might be lost.

Instead, most taxpayer money has been restored, and the new company says it has added more than 9,000 jobs.

General Motors

GM’s story is even more dramatic.

Its $67 billion bailout also involved three companies, the old GM, the GM that emerged out of bankruptcy reorganization and auto financing arm GMAC, which is now Ally Financial.

• The new company received $6.7 billion in secured loans. In April 2010, GM repaid them with interest — and touted it had "repaid our government loan, in full, with interest, five years ahead of the original schedule." But billions of dollars more had been converted to a 61 percent stake in the new company, said James Cain, financial news manager for GM. That stake is now down to 32 percent of the company’s common stock. The question is how much that stock will earn taxpayers to offset $27 billion not yet recouped from old and new GM. A third of GM’s entire stock value as of March 19, 2012, was just $13 billion. (Check its current market capitalization.)

• The former GMAC still has substantial government ownership – more than 70 percent of its common stock is held by taxpayers, according to the Treasury Department — but no loans. According to ProPublica, there’s more than $11 billion left on the GMAC ledger. So it’s not yet clear how taxpayers will fare.

• Old GM got nearly $1 billion in loans, and the Treasury Department has so far squeezed $136 million out of the company as it is liquidated in bankruptcy court. But it’s not clear how much taxpayers will ultimately recoup.

GM has certainly used the reboot to roar back into the marketplace. Its sales, along with those of its Chinese affiliates, were No. 1 in the world in 2011. (Aided the fact that its main competitor, Toyota, grappled with an earthquake, tsunami and floods.) But we’re not measuring the bailout’s success — merely the question of loan repayment.

As with Chrysler, new GM has repaid its "loans," while old GM may fail to repay $850 million. Unlike Chrysler, the government still owns a third of GM and more than 70 percent of the former GMAC — stock that taxpayers can hope will one day earn enough to make them whole.

Our ruling

So the Obama campaign is echoing a claim from GM and Chrysler that the auto companies "repaid their loans." But for both companies, that’s some careful framing that doesn’t tell the whole story. Loans represent about 20 percent of the bailout. Meanwhile, the statement is only fully true of the new automakers. A look at the entire bailout shows loans to the old car companies that may never be repaid, plus outstanding stock investments in GM and the former GMAC.

The new companies, which got about 85 percent of the loans, have repaid them all.

In our lengthy discussions about this claim, we considered everything from Mostly True to Mostly False. We’re not weighing Obama’s courage or the bailout’s success. We can say the claim the current companies "repaid their loans" is accurate but leaves out important details and context. On the larger bailout, it’s too early to say how taxpayers will make out. This statement is partially accurate but leaves out important details. We rate the claim Half True.

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Published: Wednesday, March 21st, 2012 at 5:02 p.m.

Subjects: Candidate Biography, Corporations, Economy, Message Machine 2012, Stimulus

Sources:

Obama for America, "The Road We've Traveled," March 15, 2012, via YouTube

Email interview with Kara Carscaden, deputy press secretary, Obama campaign, March 16, 2012

Email interview with James Cain, manager, financial news, General Motors Co., March 16, 2012

Email interview with Katie Merx, financial communications manager, Chrysler Group, March 16, 2012

Email interview with Matt Anderson, spokesman for Treasury Department, March 20, 2012

Email interview with Troy Gravitt, director of communications, Office of the Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program, March 21, 2012

Interview with Paul Kiel, lead bailout reporter for ProPublica, March 16, 2012

Interview with Jeremy Anwyl, vice chairman for Edmunds.com, March 21, 2012

Congressional Oversight Panel, "September Oversight Report: The Use of TARP Funds in the Support and Reorganization of the Domestic Automotive Industry," Sept. 9, 2009

PolitiFact, "CEO says GM has repaid government loans in full," April 27, 2010 (Half True)

PolitiFact, "Are auto companies paid up with American taxpayers?" May 26, 2011

PolitiFact, "CEO says Chrysler Group is now square with the American taxpayer," May 26, 2011 (Half True)

FactCheck.org, "Chrysler Paid in Full?" June 6, 2011

FactCheck.org, "Romney Wrong on Deficits, Auto Bailout," June 9, 2011

PolitiFact, "President Barack Obama says that after bailout, GM is now the world's top automaker," Jan. 25, 2012

Associated Press, "FACT CHECK: An Obama campaign film comes with some fiction; GOP rivals stretch energy claims," March 16, 2012, via Washington Post

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Office of the Special Inspector General, Troubled Asset Relief Program, GMAC letter to SIGTARP, June 2, 2009

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Office of the Special Inspector General, Troubled Asset Relief Program, Quarterly Report to Congress, Jan. 26, 2012

New York Times, "U.S. Agrees to a Stake in GMAC," Dec. 29, 2008

New York Times, "GM gets first part of government bailout," Jan. 1, 2009

ABC World News, "General Motors Pays Back $8 Billion to Taxpayers Ahead of Schedule," April 21, 2010

Associated Press via ABC News, "Chrysler to Sever US Government Ties," June 3, 2011

Written by: Becky Bowers
Researched by: Becky Bowers
Edited by: Bill Adair

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