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Donald Trump gets a Full Flop for whether he's had a relationship to Vladimir Putin
The intrusion into the Democratic National Committee’s computers, allegedly by Russian hackers, has put a renewed spotlight on Donald Trump’s connections to Russia and its leader, Vladimir Putin.
When Trump sat for an interview with ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos shortly after the Democratic National Convention, Stephanopoulos brought up the topic. Trump told Stephanopoulos that he didn’t have a relationship with Putin.
Stephanopoulos challenged him on this -- and the host was on solid ground. Trump’s denial of a relationship with Putin contradicted what he had said on multiple previous occasions.
Prior to early 2016, Trump seemed to tout his ties to the Russian leader. Trump, a lifelong businessman, boasted of foreign policy experience based on his experience hosting the Miss Universe pageant in Moscow in 2013. For instance, during an interview with Fox News on May 6, 2016, Trump told host Bret Baier, "I know Russia well. I had a major event in Russia two or three years ago, Miss Universe contest, which was a big, big, incredible event. An incredible success."
But the closeness Trump claims to Putin-era Russia has prompted questions from critics, including foreign policy professionals in both parties. The U.S. government sees Russia as a geopolitical rival and Putin in particular as a sometimes problematic force in international relations.
Trump’s seeming fondness for Putin has worried critics in both parties.
For instance, Trump took flak a few days before the Stephanopoulos interview after he seemed to encourage Russia to spy on the United States in order to find thousands of Hillary Clinton’s emails. "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," he said. "I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press," Trump said during a news conference in Florida."
So, facing growing questions about the wisdom of attaching his star to Putin’s, has Trump changed his position on whether the two have had a relationship? Here’s a closer look.
Trump’s earlier comments suggesting a relationship with Putin
Here are four occasions between 2013 and 2015 when Trump touted his ties to Putin.
• When Thomas Roberts of MSNBC asked Trump, "Do you have a relationship with Vladimir Putin? A conversational relationship or anything that you feel you have sway or influence over his government?" Trump responded, "I do have a relationship, and I can tell you that he's very interested in what we're doing here today. He's probably very interested in what you and I am saying today, and I'm sure he's going to be seeing it in some form." -- interview, November, 2013
• "You know, I was in Moscow a couple of months ago. I own the Miss Universe Pageant and they treated me so great. Putin even sent me a present, a beautiful present." -- address at the CPAC conference, March 2014
• "Russia does not respect our country any longer. They see we've been greatly weakened, both militarily and otherwise, and he certainly does not respect President Obama. So what I would do—as an example, I own Miss Universe, I was in Russia, I was in Moscow recently and I spoke, indirectly and directly, with President Putin, who could not have been nicer, and we had a tremendous success. The show was live from Moscow, and we had tremendous success there and it was amazing, but to do well, you have to get the other side to respect you, and he does not respect our president, which is very sad." -- address at the National Press Club, May 2014
• "As far as the Ukraine is concerned … if Putin wants to go in -- and I got to know him very well because we were both on 60 Minutes. We were stablemates, and we did very well that night." -- portion of an answer at the Fox Business News debate, Nov. 2015. (The notion that the two men appeared together on 60 Minutes has been debunked. As Time magazine put it succinctly, "In fact, they weren’t even on the same continent.")
The Stephanopoulos interview
Recently, though, Trump has changed his tune.
Here are excerpts from the Trump-Stephanopoulos interview, which aired on ABC’s This Week on July 31.
Stephanopoulos: "Let's talk about Russia. You made a lot of headlines with Russia this week. What exactly is your relationship with Vladimir Putin?"
Trump: "I have no relationship to -- with him. I have no relationship with him."
Stephanopoulos: "But if you have no relationship with Putin, then why did you say in 2013, I do have a relationship. In 2014, I spoke…"
Trump: "Because he has said nice things about me over the years. I remember years ago, he said something -- many years ago, he said something very nice about me. I said something good about him when Larry King was on. This was a long time ago. And I said he is a tough cookie or something to that effect. He said something nice about me. This has been going on. We did 60 Minutes together. By the way, not together-together, meaning he was probably shot in Moscow…."
Stephanopoulos: "Well, he was in Moscow…."
Trump: "And I was shot in New York."
Stephanopoulos: "You were in New York. But that's the thing."
Trump: "No, just so you understand, he said very nice things about me, but I have no relationship with him. I don't -- I've never met him. … I have no relationship with Putin. I don't think I've ever met him. I never met him. … I mean if he's in the same room or something. But I don't think so. ..."
Stephanopoulos: "You've never spoken to him on the phone?"
Trump: "I have never spoken to him on the phone, no. … Well, I don't know what it means by having a relationship. I mean he was saying very good things about me, but I don't have a relationship with him. I didn't meet him. I haven't spent time with him. I didn't have dinner with him. I didn't go hiking with him. I don't know -- and I wouldn't know him from Adam except I see his picture and I would know what he looks like."
Also, on July 27, Trump said at a press conference in Florida, "I never met Putin -- I don't know who Putin is. He said one nice thing about me. He said I'm a genius. I said thank you very much to the newspaper and that was the end of it. I never met Putin."
For the record: Media outlets have said the more accurate translation for what Putin said was "flamboyant," rather than "genius," and Putin subsequently confirmed that he was trying to indicate "flamboyant" when he made his his remark.
Trump has changed what he’s said about whether he’s had a relationship with Putin.
In 2013, he said, "I do have a relationship." In 2014 he said, "I spoke, indirectly and directly, with President Putin" and said the Russian leader had sent him a present. In 2015, he said, "I got to know him very well" due to their joint appearance on 60 Minutes.
More recently, though, Trump has said, "I never met Putin -- I don't know who Putin is" and "I have no relationship with him."
We rate this a Full Flop.
Donald Trump, interview with ABC’s This Week, July 31, 2016
Donald Trump, interview with MSNBC's Thomas Roberts, November 2013
Donald Trump, address at the CPAC conference, March 2014
Donald Trump, address at the National Press Club, May 2014
Donald Trump, remarks at the Fox Business News debate, November 2015
MSNBC, "Donald Trump discusses Putin relationship in 2013," July 28, 2016
BuzzFeed, "Trump Boasted In 2014 Of Receiving Gift From Putin And Meeting His Advisers," Jul. 31, 2016
Time magazine, "Here’s the Deal With That Putin 60 Minutes Episode Trump Mentioned," Nov. 11, 2015
Mother Jones, "Trump Claims He's Never Spoken to Putin. In This 2014 Video, Trump Says He Did," July 28, 2016
Washington Post, "Donald Trump’s falsehood-laden press conference, annotated," July 27, 2016
USA Today, "Trump attributes Russia knowledge to hosting Miss Universe pageant there," May 6, 2016
Bloomberg, "Trump Denies Putin Ties Amid Queries on Embrace of U.S. Foe," July 31, 2016
U.S. News, "Donald Trump Peppers CPAC Speeches With Humblebrags," March 6, 2014
FactCheck.org, "Putin Did Not Call Trump a ‘Genius,’ " June 17, 2016
PolitiFact, "Hillary Clinton says Donald Trump cited Miss Universe pageant as evidence of foreign policy chops," June 3, 2016
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