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Jon Stewart interviews President Barack Obama on July 21, 2015, in what was the president's final interview with Stewart as the host of "The Daily Show." (Screenshot from Comedy Central video) Jon Stewart interviews President Barack Obama on July 21, 2015, in what was the president's final interview with Stewart as the host of "The Daily Show." (Screenshot from Comedy Central video)

Jon Stewart interviews President Barack Obama on July 21, 2015, in what was the president's final interview with Stewart as the host of "The Daily Show." (Screenshot from Comedy Central video)

By Anna Bruzgulis July 23, 2015

Fact-checking Jon Stewart's last Daily Show interview with Barack Obama

President Barack Obama thanked retiring Daily Show host Jon Stewart for being a "great gift to the country" in the commander in chief’s seventh and final appearance on the show with Stewart as its leader.

"I can’t believe that you’re leaving before me," Obama said, adding that he would be issuing a new executive order that Stewart cannot leave.

When the laughs died down, Stewart tried to press Obama for serious answers about the Iran nuclear deal and Middle East relations.  

"Let me ask you a question about Iran. Whose team are we on in the Middle East?" Stewart said. "So we're fighting with Iraqis to defeat ISIS along with Iran. But in Yemen we're fighting Iran with Iraqis and Saudis."

"That’s not quite right," Obama laughed, "but that’s okay."

Obama went on to call Iran an anti-American, anti-Israel, anti-Semitic adversary that sponsors terrorist organizations, but he never said what wasn’t quite right about the relationships that Stewart described.

We wanted to fact-check Stewart on the United States’ complicated ties in the Middle East. Was Stewart right in saying that Iran was a U.S. ally against ISIS and an enemy in Yemen?

U.S. and Iran against ISIS

While both the United States and Iran are fighting against ISIS, they are not cooperating or fighting as allies. Iran is not included as part of the 60-member coalition the United States has assembled to fight ISIS.

Stewart overstated the Iran-U.S. relationship, said Richard Brennan, a senior political scientist at the RAND Corporation. Even though the United States and Iran are on the same side in fighting ISIS, the nations are not allies.

Iran wants more influence in the area than the United States wants it to have.

"Iran has the longstanding goal of establishing itself as a prominent power in the region," Brennan said. Iran wants a "weak and stable" Iraq that will acquiesce to Iran’s goals.

Iran’s support of certain Shia militias in Iraq is also a reason that the United States has "expressed concerns about Iran’s role in Iraq," said Alistair Baskey, White House National Security Council spokesman.

Shia militias often target Iraqi Sunnis (and vice-versa) in a conflict that dates back centuries. So even though the Shia militias are part of a broader front against ISIS, Brennan said they are still the same people responsible for killing Americans in previous conflicts.

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One example is Abu Mohandis (also known as Jamal Jafaar Mohammed), the current leader of the Popular Mobilization Forces (the sum total of all Shia militias in Iraq) who was responsible for the 1983 bombings of the U.S. and French embassies in Kuwait. He acted in the capacity of an "Iranian agent in Iraq" according to a 2007 CNN article.

Another reason why the United States refuses to openly support or work as an official ally of Iran: It is a staunch supporter of Syria’s Bashar al-Assad. The United States opposes Assad’s regime and has called for Assad to "step aside" multiple times as the government brutally cracked down on its people, including the regime’s chemical weapon attacks on Syrian citizens dating back to 2012.

The battle in Yemen

Now for the other arrangement Stewart described: Is the U.S. fighting against Iran in Yemen?

Not directly.

The United States continues to "provide logistical and intelligence support" to a Saudi Arabia-led coalition of the Gulf Cooperation Council fighting the Houthi militia in Yemen, Baskey said. The coalition includes Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Kuwait, and Qatar. (Oman is not a member of the coalition, although it is a member of the GCC.)

The Houthi militia forces have rallied against Yemen’s president, Abdrabbuh Mansour Hadi, who took office in 2012 but was forced to resign by Houthi rebels in January 2015. (On Feb. 6, 2015, Houthi rebels announced Mohammed Ali al-Houthi as the president of their Revolutionary Committee).

Analysts said Iran is suspected of arming, training and equipping Houthi militia. According to a Defense News article, the United States was "monitoring" Iranian ships that may have been delivering weapons to Houthi military. The Iranian government has officially denied helping Houthi forces, according to a BBC article.

However, neither Iran nor the United States is doing the actual fighting in Yemen.

" ‘We’ are not fighting in Yemen – though U.S. Special Forces may be involved," said Theodore R. Bromund, a senior research fellow at the Davis Institute for National Security and Foreign Policy at the Heritage Foundation. "It is the Saudis who are doing the fighting."

Several experts also pointed out that Stewart was wrong about Iraq’s participation in Yemen.

"We are not aware of any Iraqi involvement in the Yemen conflict," Baskey confirmed.

Our ruling

Stewart said the United States is "fighting with Iraqis to defeat ISIS along with Iran. But in Yemen we're fighting Iran with Iraqis and Saudis."

As Obama pointed out, Stewart's claim is off on a few points — Iran is not an official ally of the United States against ISIS even though both countries are fighting the terrorist group; the United States is not directly fighting Iran in Yemen; and Iraqi soldiers are not involved in the Yemen conflict.

But Stewart's overall perspective that the United States and Iran are in the unusual position of fighting against the same enemy in one country and working against each other in another is not too far off the mark.

His statement is partially accurate but lacking in some details. So we rate his claim Half True.

Our Sources

The Daily Show, "Barack Obama Pt. 1," July 21, 2015

CNN, "President Obama on 'Daily Show': 'Jon Stewart cannot leave'," July 21, 2015

BBC News, "Sunnis and Shia: Islam's ancient schism," June 20, 2014

GlobalSecurity.org, "Hashd al-Shaabi / Hashd Shaabi /Popular Mobilisation Units / People’s Mobilization Forces," accessed June 23, 2015

CNN, "U.S. military: Iraqi lawmaker is U.S. Embassy bomber," Feb. 22, 2007

Arms Control Association, "Timeline of Syrian Chemical Weapons Activity, 2012-2015," accessed July 23, 2015

Reuters, "Factbox: Saudi Arabia's coalition against Yemen's Houthis," Mar. 26, 2015

The Guardian, "Iran and Assad have won in Syria, say top Tehran foreign policy figures," May 12, 2014

U.S. Department of State, "U.S. Relations with Syria," Mar. 20, 2014

The Washington Post, "What the 60-plus members of the anti-Islamic State coalition are doing," Sept. 25, 2014

BBC News, "Yemen crisis: Who is fighting whom?," Mar. 26, 2015

The Columbian, "Yemen's Shiite rebels announce takeover of country," Feb. 6, 2015

DefenseNews.com, "US Ships Still Monitoring Iranian Flotilla," Apr. 23, 2015

Phone interview with Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, July 22, 2015

Phone and email interview with Richard Brennan, senior political scientist at the RAND Corporation, July 22, 2015

Email interview with Joshua Landis, associate professor and director of the Center for Middle East Studies at the University of Oklahoma, July 22, 2015

Email interview with Theodore R. Bromund, senior research fellow at the Davis Institute for National Security and Foreign Policy at the Heritage Foundation, July 22, 2015

Email interview with Alistair Baskey, White House National Security Council spokesman, July 22, 2015

 
 
Email interview with Renata Luczak, vice president of communications at Comedy Central, July 22, 2015

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