Lauren Carroll
By Lauren Carroll October 15, 2014
Amy Sherman
By Amy Sherman October 15, 2014

Scott says 3,000 teachers lost jobs under Crist

Republican Gov. Rick Scott is a fan of attacking former Gov. Charlie Crist’s record on jobs.

At an Oct. 15 debate between the candidates -- the second debate of the campaign -- Scott repeatedly said 832,000 Florida jobs were lost during Crist’s term. (We’ve previously rated that claim Half True.)

Crist swatted away Scott’s critique, arguing that the recession was to blame for those job losses. He said he took federal stimulus money that "helped us make sure we didn’t have to fire 20,000 school teachers." (We’ve rated that claim Mostly True.)

Scott retorted by saying Crist was responsible for killing thousands of teacher jobs as he focused his attention on other career opportunities.

"He spent all his time trying to be vice president and then running against Marco Rubio for the Senate," Scott said. "3,000 teachers lost their jobs when Charlie was governor."

When Scott used the same statistic in a June ad, we rated it Mostly False. Here, we will review the evidence on whether 3,000 teachers were laid off under Crist and, if so, whether he was to blame.

How Florida cut education during the recession

In the years leading up to Crist winning the governor’s office in 2006, the Florida economy was booming, pushing up funding for education. The K-12 budget when Crist took office was nearly $18 billion, including state and local dollars.

But in 2007, Florida’s tax collections sagged as the national and state economy crumbled. The Legislature held a special session in September to determine how to fill a $1.1 billion hole in the $71 billion state budget. Education and health care, two of the largest expenses, ended up taking huge hits. In 2008, the state continued to suffer from a recession, and that led to more cuts. Republican leaders rejected Crist’s call to expand Lottery games and a property tax hike to pay for schools.

Ultimately, lawmakers cut K-12 by more than $300 million. Democrats, the minority party in Tallahassee, and the teachers’ union opposed the cuts.

"We all want to do more," said Crist, a Republican at the time, at the end of the session. "You just do the best you can."

Amid shortfalls, the Legislature continued to slash the budget in 2009. But then the state got some help from the federal government.

In 2009, Congress passed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 -- the $787 billion federal stimulus bill that supporters credit with saving jobs of teachers and other government workers nationwide. Crist accepted the funds, and state data indicated that about 19,000 full-time equivalent jobs for instructional personnel were preserved. 

Republicans cite report for teacher layoff numbers

The ad attacking Crist for 3,000 teacher layoffs relies on a September 2009 report by the liberal Center for Economic and Policy Research that tallied jobs shed from state and local governments during the recession. The report includes a list that shows the lost teacher jobs in Florida added up to about 3,700.

Here’s the problem with the way the ad uses that report: It doesn’t explain that it was based on news articles about layoffs or potential layoffs.

The report explains that caveat clearly: "This list shows press accounts of government planned job cuts. In some cases, the cuts may not have actually been implemented because of subsequent budget adjustments. Also, the job losses may have been met through attrition rather than actual layoffs."

For example, one article cited in the report stated that Miami-Dade, the state’s largest district, "cut nearly 1,000 teaching positions." But the Miami Herald reported that many teachers were moved into other jobs, and a district spokesman told PolitiFact Florida that no teacher was laid off. Broward initially cut about 400 teachers, but rehired about 75 percent of them.

While Marion County announced it would cut about 500 workers, the stimulus "saved us from having to lay a single person off in 2008 or 2009," a school district spokesman told PolitiFact Florida.

Hillsborough, Pasco and Pinellas counties -- none of which were cited in the report -- didn’t lay off any teachers. (The report only addressed about 15 percent of Florida’s school districts.)

School districts report to the state Department of Education the number of teachers they have each year. That data showed 3,282 fewer teachers in the fall of 2008 compared to 2007 -- roughly a 2 percent decline. There was a smaller drop the next year.

It’s fair to assume that some of those declines were due to layoffs. However, the districts don’t say how many of the declines were due to layoffs and how many were for other reasons, such as retirements, voluntary career changes or firings for cause.

"There were some layoffs during the steep downhill dive of the state economy, but there was a strong effort in school districts to avoid teacher layoffs," said Ruth Haseman Melton, director of government relations for the Florida School Boards Association.

In some districts that meant other support workers -- such as custodians or bus drivers -- absorbed the bulk of the layoffs, she said.

Our ruling

Scott said that "3,000 teachers lost their jobs when Charlie was governor."

The claim omits some key points. The number was derived from media reports about possible layoffs; not all of them materialized. Also, the claim glosses over the fact that Crist accepted federal stimulus money that preserved thousands of teacher jobs. Finally, Crist was not solely responsible for teacher layoffs. Crist and the Republican-led Legislature signed off on budget cuts amid a national recession -- something no single politician is personally responsible for.

Clearly, some teachers were laid off statewide, but there's a lack of evidence that it amounted to 3,000 positions.

We rate this claim Mostly False.

Our Sources

CBS 4, Florida Governor debate, Oct. 15, 2014

Let’s Get to Work, "4 years ago" TV ad, June 23, 2014

Center for Economic and Policy Research, "Cut loose: state and local layoffs of public employees in the current recession" and Layoffs Source List, September 2009

Florida Department of Education, Public school funding, 2002/03-2013/14

Florida Department of Education, Staff in Florida’s public schools, 2007-2010

Miami Herald, "House, Senate pass $1.1 billion in cuts," Accessed in Nexis, Oct. 13, 2007

Orlando Sentinel, "Stark budget may be weapon," Accessed in Nexis, May 4, 2008

Orlando Sentinel"Selling Of Florida May Be Tougher Because Of Budget Cuts," May 28, 2008

Tampa Bay Times, "Florida governor praises budget while Democrats grimace," May 10, 2014

Miami Herald, "Necessity, not politics, ruled ‘08 session," Accessed in Nexis, May 4, 2008

Miami Herald, "Teaching jobs cut sharply," Accessed in Nexis, June 10, 2008

Miami Herald, "School board passes budget with no teacher raises," Accessed in Nexis, July 30, 2008

PolitiFact Florida, "Rick Scott says Charlie Crist let college tuition increase up to 15 percent every year,"June 4, 2014

PolitiFact Florida, "Charlie Crist says he stopped layoffs of 20,000 teachers during the recession,"Nov. 7, 2013

PolitiFact Florida, "Rick Scott 'increased tuition at our state colleges and universities by double digits,' Florida Democratic Party says," Aug. 2, 2013

PolitiFact Florida, "Charlie Crist signed 'an automatic 15 percent annual tuition increase,' Rick Scott's campaign says," April 3, 2014

Interview, Nadine Drew, Broward County school district spokeswoman, June 23, 2014

Interview, Antonio Cotarelo, Miami-Dade County school district spokesman, June 23, 2014

Interview, Stephen Hegarty, Hillsborough County school district spokesman, June 23, 2014

Interview, Donna Winchester, Pinellas County school district spokeswoman, June 24, 2014

Interview, Kevin Christian, Marion County school district, June 23, 2014

Interview, Nancy H. Wait, Volusia County school district spokeswoman, June 23, 2014

Interview, Katherine March, Orange County school district spokesman, June 23, 2014

Interview, Ruth Haseman Melton, director of government relations for the Florida School Boards Association, June 24, 2014

Interview, Mark Pudlow, spokesman Florida Education Association, June 23, 2014

Interview, Cheryl Etters, spokeswoman Florida Department of Education, June 25, 2014

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